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03 November 2011 @ 08:06 am
Disney Princesses Mentioned in Controversial Cartoons Video  
In today's Yahoo! Who Knew?, the topic is controversial cartoons, and the Disney Princesses are mentioned (along with Mickey).

Here is the link to the video.
*Michele*mich311 on November 3rd, 2011 07:59 pm (UTC)
That was pretty interesting! Thank you for posting this.
hachimitsu_inkhachimitsu_ink on November 3rd, 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
kinda sad that this news has been wayy over done after the mermaid incident..
most feminist groups grew tired and started to troll on other peoples business..

I don't know what their deal is but this is animation! we have a right to create things whatever we wanted!
Amanda Panda: ariel facepalmshlupquack on November 3rd, 2011 09:06 pm (UTC)
They've "come under fire" because some people are ridiculous. xD

Thanks for sharing! I've been watching a lot of Beavis and Butthead lately in preparation for the new episodes... Heh.
Kartos Dal'Avierkartos on November 3rd, 2011 11:16 pm (UTC)
It's almost as if they think animation only exists in the United States. They also missed a lot of very important bits, and why on earth were they mentioning the Comics Code? I thought this was cartoons, not comic books.
goldie_13 on November 3rd, 2011 11:36 pm (UTC)
I can see why feminists could pick up something like Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella and say it portrays women as weak or inferior - truly I can see the stereotype in the older disney films if you are concentrating on trying to find stereotypes in a fairytale-esque movie. However, films like Princess and the Frog and The Little Mermaid are anything but stereotypical. Tiana and Ariel are strong women who dont need a man at all. Ariel fights back against Ursula and helps win the fight doesnt she? And Tiana is all about being independent and working hard to obtain her dreams. In no way does she lean on a man for support! So overall its just ridiculous to pick on animation when it comes to creating female stereotypes, though I was aware that it has happened in the past...this is just my take on the issue. =))
blueriptide: Arielblueriptide on November 4th, 2011 02:20 am (UTC)
Heck yeah. I have to say Mulan and Tiana are IMO the strongest of all the princesses. I mean seriously, how can you be offended over THEIR stories?
goldie_13 on November 4th, 2011 02:26 am (UTC)
hahaha exactly what I was thinking!
swanprideswanpride on November 4th, 2011 02:44 pm (UTC)
Well, they both are fiyated on their daddy - and Tiana learned cooking from her father instead of her mother (never mind that this is such a womanly job), and how dare Mulan not to be a career woman and take the job from the emporer, but instead going home to her loving family to (*shudder*) marry...

Their arguments, not mine.
blueriptide: Arielblueriptide on November 5th, 2011 11:10 pm (UTC)
That's true. They stuck out to me as the strongest because Mulan went out and did something for an opinion she strongly agreed with that was also highly non-sexualized (It's not like she was hald nude in her warrior outfit or anything.) And Tiana because she showed that if you want something, you can't wait for it to happen or sit there and wish on a star, you have to work for it yourself.
swanprideswanpride on November 5th, 2011 11:32 pm (UTC)
I think Rapunzel is the strongest, having to overcome years of abuse of the worst kind - but they are all very strong in their own way. who cares if the marry or not, or what kind of clothes they wear?
swanprideswanpride on November 4th, 2011 02:42 pm (UTC)
But the thing is: It's the fairy tale which has the stereotypes. If you compare the Disney version to the original, the Disney version is always an improvement - and for the time they were made, all this movies are more on the feminist side, imho. There aren't many movies which feature strong female protagonists, and no Disney princess has ever been a Damsel in Distress - whatever happend to them, they always fought back - unless they were put to sleep. But you can hardly call someone week for being helpless after getting knocked out with the fairy tale version of chloroform.
madison_face09madison_face09 on November 4th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
Exactly!! If feminists have a problem with the princesses, they need to go back and see the original stories!!!
goldie_13 on November 4th, 2011 09:39 pm (UTC)
lol yeah exactly thats what I meant by 'trying to find stereotypes in a fairytale story' - its a fairytale, and its hardly Disney's fault for the basis of the foundation of a story thats been set in granite for so many years prior to the movie being made. And I agree with you that Disney Princesses support Girl Power! By making their princesses strong and resilient.
nevrafirenevrafire on November 4th, 2011 01:35 pm (UTC)
this is what I was talking about.

like why people have to be so closeminded!

girls can Both like pretty dresses and want a boyfriend and be independent and strong.

i thought like, feminism was about Women having Choices of what They want to do/be. not getting some of their choices dismissed as "anti-feministic" and stuff.
madison_face09madison_face09 on November 4th, 2011 04:29 pm (UTC)
This is so dumb. It's like they haven't even SEEN half the movies.
qlbunnies: princess and frog kissqlbunnies on November 5th, 2011 02:27 am (UTC)
Oh no. This just reminded me that nearly EVERYONE assumed The Princess and the Frog would be racist, for no reason other than it was portraying black human characters for the first time in a Disney animated movie since Song of the South (if I remember correctly). People actually avoided seeing the movie, all because of the outcry that was based on stupid assumptions drawn from concept art and vague information about the plot before the movie was even released. Most of my friends say this is why they didn't go and see it, and I think it might be what killed PatF's chances of being a true success on the scale Disney was hoping for. PEOPLE ARE STUPID. End of story.
qlbunnies: mulan blossomsqlbunnies on November 5th, 2011 02:29 am (UTC)
Also, I feel like South Park doesn't even need a disclaimer anymore, because you should really expect to be offended when you watch it. xD I mean, why watch South Park if you can't handle good ol'-fashioned boundary-crossing humor in the first place?
swanprideswanpride on November 5th, 2011 11:35 pm (UTC)
Well, I was put off the movie too - but not because I thought it might be racist, but because of all the complainers and the fact, that disney caved in and made changes to the movie on their behalf. I've seen it since then, and I think the story really suffered from them trying to satisfy everyone.
qlbunnies: tiana concept artqlbunnies on November 10th, 2011 07:22 am (UTC)
I do think it was kind of futile for Disney to change the movie in response to the criticism - there are some issues (like the "the prince is not black" issue) where you can't avoid pissing off someone no matter how hard you try. Tiana originally had the historically accurate job of being a chambermaid, but people complained it was demeaning. Then when the movie came out, they complained about historical inaccuracy. I actually like some of the changes, though - I like the name Tiana better than Maddy even though it's odd for the time period, and I like that Tiana is a waitress aspiring to run her own restaurant. But I do think that Disney's obvious skirting around historical issues of race is occasionally awkward, like when there are both white and black people eating at Duke's Cafe.