24 April 2012 @ 07:36 am
Third Official Brave Trailer  









 
 
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Flying Mint Bunny: pic#116989705haro on April 24th, 2012 11:44 am (UTC)
This is by far the best US trailer yet. It plays the humor in a much better manner and it focuses on characters and actually brings in more of the plot. It’s really fast paced and strong. AND THE SCENE WITH FERGUS IMITATING MERIDA. SO EPIC.
Jamie Lynneprincessatta on April 24th, 2012 03:58 pm (UTC)
I think the opposite of this trailer actually :/ I feel like it falls flat in comparison to the Japanese trailer. The song is really pretty at the end, but the timing of the words about family is just weird and it just sort of ends. Instead of increasing the fast pace, it decreases it. The scene of her jumping up to her mom is not as epic as it is in the Japanese trailer because the music doesn't set the mood, imo.
Flying Mint Bunnyharo on April 24th, 2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
My comment says it's the best US trailer. I said nothing about it being better than the Japanese one.
stardreemerstardreemer on April 24th, 2012 12:37 pm (UTC)
The more I see of Brave, the less excited about it I am, which is a shame. I know they are aiming for the feisty, independent angle, but Miranda is starting to sound a bit whiny to me. I mean, she is complaining because she has to brush her hair, and her mom tells her not to put her weapons on the table? Those don't really sound like unreasonable request.

I'll reserve complete judgment until I see it, but so far I'm not too impressed.
nevrafirenevrafire on April 24th, 2012 12:47 pm (UTC)
but isn't that what teenagers Do? like not all, but a lot.

I know when I was teen i would complain the simplest of things.

maybe it's not historically accurate (i think?) but merida does come across as a typical teenager needing to see things from other's POV.

Flying Mint Bunny: pic#116989705haro on April 24th, 2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
That's kind of the point though. Merida starts out as a flawed character who can be a bit unreasonable about things. She goes through a journey as a character to help her mature. And to be fair, when you DO have an overbearing parent, it kind of gets to you and even the little reasonable things can become irritating.

The intent is that we're supposed to understand both sides. Yes her mom can be overbearing, but she has her best interests at heart. Yes Merida can be a bit bratty, but she does have some good points. I've seen multiple people who were at the Pixar screening of the first thirty minutes say that one of the best things about it is that neither side (Elinor nor Merida) is 'correct,' and both sides are equally sympathetic. So instead of taking the easy way out and making Merida 100% correct since she's the heroine they're presenting a realistic family conflict where both parties aren't handling it in the right manner? To me that's good storytelling and it just makes me more excited for the film.

Edited at 2012-04-24 01:20 pm (UTC)
stardreemerstardreemer on April 24th, 2012 01:30 pm (UTC)
I guess I just don't see her mother as being overbearing. From what we've seen in the trailer (which I admit, isn't much), I don't think the things her mother is asking her to do are all that bad. But, then again it has been a long time since I've been a teenager, so maybe I just can't relate.

I guess the fact that they are promoting her as 'not your typical princess' annoys me a bit, because she is almost like every other Disney Princess: wants something more than the life she has, rebels against parents/guardians, wants control of her own life. That's not a bad thing, but why market it as something completely different when it's not really?

Ha, who knew I had so many feelings about this movie? I'm glad other people are looking forward to it, I think I was just expecting something different. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, just expressing how I feel!
Flying Mint Bunny: pic#106178029haro on April 24th, 2012 01:57 pm (UTC)
How is forcing her into a ceremony where men are playing a game of archery to win her hand in marriage not overbearing? Or putting her in a dress so tight she has trouble moving? I haven't been a teenager for a long time either, but her mom constantly going on about how she needs to be a lady is also overbearing, regardless of whether some of her points are valid. Imo.

But Pixar isn't really marketing it as 'not your typical princess'. I keep seeing people saying this, but it's more bloggers and stuff and not Pixar themselves. I think I saw one comment from Brenda Chapman along those lines, but she's not even the director any longer. And to be fair the 'not your typical princess' thing? Disney themselves has been saying that in marketing for new films since at least Belle. And Dreamworks pulled it with Shrek, and Fox with Anastasia, and the list goes on. You're right that Pixar isn't marketing it as a 'princess movie,' but that's because a) like with the Tangled marketing, marketers are trying to get boy butts in seats and b) because it really isn't a princess movie in the Disney sense, even if Merida does have some common traits with a few Disney princesses (which really are just tropes for young leads period, no matter the company or media). They're marketing it as a heroic narrative, which is what the film is.

Edited at 2012-04-24 02:15 pm (UTC)
Jamie Lynneprincessatta on April 24th, 2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
Jumping in to say that, actually, there are people at Pixar saying this. John Lasseter himself said in a lengthy interview that he wanted to make a fairytale film that countered what Disney was putting out. Kelly MacDonald (Merida's voice actress) seems to be convinced that Merida is a "special snowflake" and in another lengthy interview, the director that replaced Chapman seemed pretty bent on making sure Merida and film were as fierce as possible, physically speaking. I can't remember who it was, but there was another interview where someone at Pixar went on and on about how the movie would not be your typical fairytale and that it would be really gritty and bold. That's just a few examples coming from people involved with the film and I've seen a few more here and there. So, yes, there is a rhetoric from Pixar about Merida (or at least the film as a whole) not being typical. Bloggers have merely seemed to pick up on this rhetoric and push it harder.
Flying Mint Bunnyharo on April 24th, 2012 07:36 pm (UTC)
Except for Kelly McDonald's comments, none of those paint Merida is a special snowflake? Her being fierce, it being not a Disney-like film (which it's really not), and the film being gritty don't do that. So no, I don't think Pixar is presenting Merida as superior to Disney princesses, as a lot of people seem to say.

Of course they're saying their film on the whole isn't typical. They're filmmakers trying to get people interested in their product. Why would they want to present the film as 'typical'? They want people to think it's different and thus be interested.
Jamie Lynneprincessatta on April 24th, 2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
I agree with you. I've actually received some "abuse" for my lack of enthusiasm as well, so I just at least wanted to encourage you and let you know you're not alone. Like you, it's not that I'm trying to rain on anyone's parade, but I have an opinion too!
Jamie Lynneprincessatta on April 24th, 2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
I'm with you on both counts (less excited and Merida seeming whiny). It feels much more strong-headed than most of the other feisty princesses. Ariel might be the closest (which is hilariously ironic given the fact that she's my favorite). But even Ariel didn't complain (in the original) about things as silly as brushing her hair.

Nalyubuitesjo_fitz on April 24th, 2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
I'm excited for the movie and all, but I think I'm more excited for the sound track! :O
lemon_m on April 24th, 2012 02:12 pm (UTC)
haha, this! I can't wait to hear it.
sumi_tatsuha: The little Mermaidsumi_tatsuha on April 24th, 2012 02:11 pm (UTC)
Ahhhh I cannot wait for this movie!

I swear I heard Craig Ferguson's voice as the father, or am I going crazy?
Flying Mint Bunny: pic#116989705haro on April 24th, 2012 02:14 pm (UTC)
Craig is actually in it, but as a different character (Lord Macintosh). Billy Connolly is playing King Fergus.
sumi_tatsuha: The little Mermaidsumi_tatsuha on April 24th, 2012 02:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks <3 I knew he was in this movie somewhere.
♥ Kate: Actress: Liv: Citysweetnessarose on April 24th, 2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOD THIS IS SO CUTE I CANNOT WAITTTTTTT
Hummingbirdpocahontas_luvr on April 24th, 2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
YAY! I can't wait!
genforever246genforever246 on April 25th, 2012 04:28 am (UTC)
See all the negative feedback on this has made me want to say one thing, I hope it doesn't get criticized like PatF.
hepburnette on April 25th, 2012 10:43 am (UTC)
SQUEE I think I'm in love with Merida *__*
Cris: Disney - Mulanlittlemermaid on April 25th, 2012 02:05 pm (UTC)
Oh, I can't wait to see this! It looks awesome :D