13 August 2012 @ 10:52 am
Hypothetical TV Series Talk  
The TLM Series vs. Ariel's Beginning post from a couple days ago got me thinking. I love Disney cartoons spun off from the movies, as I think it expands their world and shows us more of who these characters are. Princesses in particular haven't really had their own spin-off TV shows, though. With the exception of Ariel and kind of Jasmine because of Aladdin (where she got a couple really good episodes), who were once billed as The Princess Power Hour on Toon Disney, Sing Me A Story With Belle, and various cameos on House of Mouse, we haven't gotten much (not counting Once Upon A Time since it's not exactly a direct spin-off).

Which princess do you guys think could carry a series and what do you think the show would be about? Personally, I think Mulan could have an awesome show where she fights all sorts of monsters in an Aladdin-like spirit, and even Tiana could do something battling the supernatural.
 
 
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SifuKatarasifukatara on August 13th, 2012 08:28 pm (UTC)
Sing Me a Story with Belle
Aloha! I hope you're doing well! i just read your entry. i LOVE Sing Me a Story with Belle too! i used to watch it all the time when it was on! My fave chars were Kirsten, Kerry Anne and Belle herself! I also love the TLM TV Series and the Aladdin one! As far as what other princess could carry a series, maybe Rapunzel. We could see what she and Flynn have been up to since their wedding! I think Rapunzel is a strong enough char to pull it off. Also, do you have skype? If so, we could chat about TLM and Sing Me a Story with Belle! My skype name is SurfingWithGod4ever
I hope to hear from you soon!
Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
Sorry, no Skype, I'm kind of low tech. I only have vague memories of Sing Me a Story, but then again, I didn't watch it regularly.
chibi_5chibi_5 on August 13th, 2012 08:55 pm (UTC)
Little mermaid and aladdin tv series are soooooooooo freakin good!!! I love how they all had new characters, magic, adventures and even things that could tie up with the original!! I even watched tarzan tv series and it was pretty awesome as well ^-^

AWWWWWWWW that would be so freakin awesome if Mulan had a series!!! I would watch it non stop!! Tiana would have a pretty good series and I think pocahontas would have an interesting one as well.

but as for the rest of the girls, I dont think it would be very exciting :/ I think movies that are above the general fairy tale stories have more of a potential especially if the princess is head strong, adventurious with a wide cast. Sadly I cant see rapunzel getting a tv series, I'm trying to picture it but I got nothin same with the rest of the girls :(
loyalsubject421loyalsubject421 on August 13th, 2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
Pocahontas makes sense to me. I mean, she doesn't get the guy in the end really so that gives the potential for outdoor adventures both before and after her movie.

I think Mulan could work as well since she does instigate the adventure type of story.

I also think Rapunzel could have worked if Flynn's story had at the end had been true and that it took them years before they finally actually got married.

While I like all the other princesses, I don't really see how you could make a television series about them doing 'tv-esque' expected things. I mean, the other princesses didn't really have lives before their inciting incident that would scream 'tv series' to me. Ariel works because she was a mermaid so there's plenty of things for her to do that the audience can enjoy. Most of the other characters complain about having 'average' lives which is something we can relate to. We really don't want to see what we already understand. And then most of the princesses get married at the end which gives the entire story as a whole a sense of completion.

I do however think it would have been cool if Wendy and Alice had TV series. I know there was a 90s modern Alice show Disney did but Wendy and Alice both have worlds that have the potential for them to undergo pretty awesome adventures. In fact, I think a lot of the non-princess ladies have the potential for tv shows simply because they were put into worlds that have a greater sense of adventure than a lot of the princesses do.


Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
With any of them you can do prequels, midquels, or sequels to the movies. I agree that most of them wouldn't work for prequels since their lives are boring, but I don't think marriage necessarily has to be the end of a story. Especially if Rapunzel and Flynn are out adventuring or Tiana and Naveen have to save innocent victims in New Orleans from the shadowy forces of evil.

Adventures in Wonderland was Alice in name only (wasn't she American? and those Wonderland residents were too...nice), so Alice could definitely have a series. How would you see a Wendy series going? In terms of Peter Pan women, it looks like Disney favors Tinkerbell in that regard, what with her series of movies and all.
loyalsubject421loyalsubject421 on August 14th, 2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
What I meant by marriage, I meant the story feels complete once they get married and live the happily ever after. That's why I said it would feel weird to have a show after that. Think of the Disney sequels like Little Mermaid 2. I personally was not a fan of that movie...mainly for the reason I just said.

For Wendy, I was thinking sort of like that animated series that already exists about Peter Pan where they would either prolong the adventures in Neverland or have Wendy, John, and Michael return to Neverland similar to what happens in Peter Pan in Scarlet.
Chris90scartoonman on August 15th, 2012 07:33 pm (UTC)
Little Mermaid II is a bit different since Ariel isn't the protagonist, Melody is, but you're right. I forgot about the whole "happily ever after" thing that sort of promises they won't get into any more life-threatening situations.

If that Wendy series happened, Peter would probably end up being the main character and not Wendy (you're talking about Peter Pan and the Pirates, right?).
loyalsubject421loyalsubject421 on August 15th, 2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
Yes I'm talking about Peter Pan and the Pirates! Lol, I couldn't remember what it was called. But I think they could do it where Wendy is the main character instead. Or at the very least, it would be a sort of Tarzan and Jane deal where they're both the main characters.

Personally, I'd prefer an Alice series. I mean, there's just so much of Wonderland they didn't even use from the books that could easily become a good series.
Chris90scartoonman on August 16th, 2012 07:26 am (UTC)
Co-protagonists could be cool, but YES to the Alice series! I'm still bummed they cut out the Gryphon and the Mock Turtle and you can only see them in that Jello commercial.
Flying Mint Bunny: lovingharo on August 13th, 2012 10:08 pm (UTC)
Even as a little kid I really disliked the Little Mermaid series (even though I was obsessed with the movie). It was just too cheese-filled. I loved the Aladdin one though. The tv shows on the whole have been very hit or miss for me. Loved Aladdin, Hercules, and Lilo and Stitch, but I could do without the rest.

Rapunzel could definitely carry a show. She apparently waited years to marry, and she's got so many potential adventures as well as things to learn now that she's outside the tower. Mulan could carry one for similar reasons noted above.

I don't really see any of the other (without tv shows already) princesses working particularly well.

Edited at 2012-08-13 10:08 pm (UTC)
majorabbey: tangled captain guardmajorabbey on August 13th, 2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
I definitely agree with Rapunzel. I've said before (not on here, admittedly) that the characters from Tangled could make a good spin-off series, preferably set after the movie (but not necessarily after the wedding). As for the shows, the one that always comes to mind is the Tarzan series. That was my favourite. Got to agree with Mulan as well.
Chris: icon90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
I think the Little Mermaid series overall was good, but sometimes could be hit and miss, and it was definitely cheesy. I could definitely see a Rapunzel show, although it'd be weird to regularly see her the way she looked after the movie ends. The name "Rapunzel" is synonymous with long hair.
Luthientinuviell on August 13th, 2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
The spin-off shows from Disney movies that have worked best for me are the ones that are prequels: The Little Mermaid and Hercules were my two favourites, because they are filling in gaps in the story that we want to know about as viewers: what was life like in the sea before Ariel decided to leave? What did Hercules get up to all those years training with Phil? (Probably the only TV series that takes place time-wise entirely in a montage). Never really got into the Aladdin series: I would have liked a prequel series for Aladdin. Showing how he grew up, and how Jasmine grew up, would have a lot of story potential.

Life in the forest with Aurora could have some potential, before she turns sixteen and the movie's plot takes over. Or Tiana and Charlotte growing up, though that one would have to take place during WWI and maybe Disney wouldn't want to go there. Personally I think there's a lot of story there.
Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
The problem with the prequels, at least with Hercules, is sometimes those adventures make the movie problem not as epic in comparison. Hercules was ground zero in the middle of Ragnarok on his show! Battling the Titans in the movie shouldn't have been that hard. Then again, at least they went with the "hero in training" angle and he was clumsy, whereas at the end of the montage in the movie, he's quite the accomplished hero.

I loved what we got for Aladdin. If he got a prequel, that means he wouldn't be able to interact with Jasmine, Genie, Carpet, or even Iago. I could see prequels for Aurora and Tiana, though, provided there's magic for them both.
Paulinelinepau1 on August 14th, 2012 12:28 am (UTC)
I would LOVE to see a Tangled TV spin off. Rapunzel has a great and curious personality, and 18 years in a tower really leaves a LOT to be learned and explored.
Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
Very true!
Sakura123: FanFicweber_dubois22 on August 14th, 2012 12:37 am (UTC)
Of the Princesses that could probably carry a television show post-Ariel and Jasmine, it would probably be Mulan, Snow White, Esmeralda and Pocahontas, if only because of their male protagonists and their situations in (and there's more of a story to be told behind the Dwarves then they'll ever be with Snow White and her Prince). Hell, Kida and the girl from the Black Cauldron probably have movies that would make for a good series.

However, Cinderella, Aurora, Tiana, Belle and Rapunzel, on the other hand, despite the fantastic situations in their movies, wouldn't be able to carry a television show. Their fairly rooted in a warped perception of "reality" that wouldn't make for an interesting series at all before it fell into a state of utter redundancy.

Edited at 2012-08-14 12:40 am (UTC)
Chris: Lanterns90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:23 pm (UTC)
Wasn't there a proposed Atlantis TV series?

What do you mean by "warped perception of reality"?
Sakura123: DOTD04weber_dubois22 on August 14th, 2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
That's what I hear. I also heard Pocahontas was supposed to have gotten an animated series as well, but that fell through. And by "warped perception of reality", I really meant magical realism. An otherwise reality based setting with magical/fantastic elements. I.E., there was really just one instance of the supernatural or action/adventure in the aforementioned heroine's films, but not enough to really run with anything for a television series like the ones I think would.
Chris90scartoonman on August 15th, 2012 07:25 pm (UTC)
Hm, you've got a point. I suppose that's fairly true for Tiana since she lives in a more contemporary/modern world, but between Mama Odie and Dr. Facilier, I feel like there could still be a lot of magic out there. For Belle, that evil Enchantress is still out there somewhere.

I think it all depends on where they go with the series and how the magic is handled.
the light princess: princess jasminelilac_doll on August 14th, 2012 01:40 am (UTC)
I don't know why the Disney channel can't have a show for the princesses where each girl has her own episode every week.

Also, I read somewhere that Disney channel was going to start showing re-runs of The Little Mermaid series again? Is it really going to happen?
dailydawldailydawl on August 14th, 2012 03:51 am (UTC)
It's been happening on Disney Jr. But it's usually at 3 in the morning.

Disney Channel needs to get their act together and put some better content. Give me princess spin-offs!
Chris: icon90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
A Disney Princess anthology show would work, it'd basically be the stories from the Disney Princess Collection DVD's in TV format.
nevrafirenevrafire on August 14th, 2012 05:23 am (UTC)
I totally just remember something- relevant?
Wasn't there like, was going to be a series about a little girl name sofi who had adventures in becoming a princess and had talks with the other princesses?

what happened to that?!
Abigail: Kingdom Hearts Squaremdmbrightside on August 14th, 2012 07:36 am (UTC)
Re: I totally just remember something- relevant?
Sofia the First is premiering as a movie in Fall 2012, then as a TV series in Spring 2013 (NYT).
Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
What demographic is that for?
mew2mewmew2mew on August 14th, 2012 11:22 am (UTC)
I think a TV-Series about Belle would be nice… either a prequel or during her life in Beast's Castle. Merida seems to be a good candidate, too.
Chris: Hercules90scartoonman on August 14th, 2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
For Belle it would be after the movie since she says she never got any adventures or had been in an enchanted castle before. Merida would have an AWESOME series! So much potential in that.
genforever246genforever246 on August 15th, 2012 04:24 am (UTC)
I agree with the Mulan thing. She could have a pretty fantastic cartoon series. I think Tiana could probably have a decent one too, though it would be more of a midquel where it shows us how she got to the place she was at the start of the movie. In my perfect world it would include her father's death. Now that I typed that out, it sound more like a drama than a little kid cartoon....

As well, I kind of want to see a Snow White cartoon. She may not be strong enough to carry a cartoon herself but I think that is a benefit. She leaves a lot of open room for character developement and since her cast isn't really that big, her show could introduce a lot of story lines. Plus, Snow White has never been in anything else other than the original movie. It's time for her to get another animated feature.

Belle could probably also pull one off but there are problems. It would most likely be a midquel because that is what most people are familiar with but most of the plots we have seen already for midquels for BatB are rather silly and uninteresting. Therefore, unless it's a sequel, it might seem kind of tacky to watch.

Rapunzel could probably have a cartoon as well as Pocahontas. All that are left are Cinderella and Aurora. Aurora could have a decent story since so much of her childhood is missing but the princess element would be gone for a midquel like that. That might not make money unless it's a sequel but that would be rather shallow (Enchanted Tales for example). Cinderella can't really hold her own because her childhood can't be elaborated for her slavery story-line and most sequel ideas would be shallow (Cinderella 2).

Wow I rambled for a long time. :P
Chris90scartoonman on August 16th, 2012 06:58 am (UTC)
I liked your ramble!

Knowing Disney, Tiana would need two more movies until we get to see her interacting with her father.

Snow White cameo'ed in House of Mouse and I think she had a world in one of the Kingdom Hearts tie-in games, but I know what you mean. I'm glad they put her front and center on Once Upon A Time, but it'd be great to see her and the dwarves pop up more.

I wonder how angry people would get if there was a BatB series set after the movie where Adam gets cursed to turn into the Beast every full moon or something.

I really need to check out some of these other tie-ins and sequels, I heard Cinderella 3's actually pretty good.
genforever246genforever246 on August 17th, 2012 07:41 am (UTC)
I didn't really count cameo appreances. I only counted sequels and spin-offs. Cinderella 3 is actually pretty good. It's true.